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How many of you submissive women practice self-bondage regularly?
I know three females who do this regularly when time permits, some even daily and others all night while sleeping. They all wear lingerie, garter-belts and nylons. They say that they like looking sexy and the "helplessness"; while tied and gagged. Do you.... even in your fantacies?

Not me. I prefer the real thing: being tied up by someone else. But I agree with the thrill of the helplessness while being tied up!

Three questions for all women?
1) Do you call yourself a feminist? As a man, I dislike using the term to describe myself as I consider the struggle for equal women's rights just as important as any other movement, so I think the label is unnecessary.

2) Why isn't there greater attention paid among womens' groups in the West against the massive abuses in Muslim countries? Saying that Islam is harmless or separated from the West is quite a paltry and self-pernicious excuse, especially after 9/11, so is it a case of ignorance, indifference, or the double standard of cultural relativism? Except for universal suffrage (which is still denied by Saudi Arabia and a few other Gulf States), the average woman in the Middle East has fewer rights than the average Western woman living two hundred years ago.

3) What percent of women you know object to pornography? Do you watch it yourself, and if so, has it ever helped you discover an aspect of your sexuality (e.g. bondage or bisexuality) that you might not have known or expressed before?

1. No, I consider myself an equalist. I am interested in human rights, not special privileges for one gender or the other.

2. I actually just asked a question about that:
answers.yahoo.com/question/index;…

3. All of the women I know personally are opposed to pornography. I do not watch it, although I do check out a Femdom website every once in awhile. I suppose that's a kind of porn. But I discovered my interest in BDSM from an interview with a Dominatrix in Glamour magazine.

If what we think is freedom, is really just slavery to self, then what does it really mean to be free indeed!?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR7bBEBIC…

They answered Him, We are Abraham's seed and were never in bondage to anyone. How do you say, You will be made free? Jesus answered them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Whoever practices sin is the slave of sin. And the slave does not abide in the house forever, but the Son abides forever.
Therefore if the Son shall make you free, you shall be free indeed. John 8:33-36

What does it really mean, dearly beloved, that IF . . . the Son shall make you free, you shall be free INDEED ?

interestingly, this word for "free" is ἐλεύθερος "eleutheros"
el-yoo'-ther-os
Probably from the alternate of G2064; unrestrained (to go at pleasure), that is, (as a citizen) not a slave (whether freeborn or manumitted), or (generally) exempt (from obligation or liability): - free (man, woman), AT LIBERTY.

and "indeed" is ὄντως " ontōs "
on'-toce
Adverb of the oblique cases of G5607; "REALLY: - certainly, clean, indeed, of a truth, verily."

What are you liberating thoughts on this glorious liberty only granted by the Son of God ?

Bonus Q: What is this glorious liberty of the guyren of God, which even ALL OF CREATION is groaning and travailing to see brought forth with EARNEST EXPECTATION ?

"For the earnest expectation of the creation waits for the manifestation of THE SONS of God.
For the creation was not willingly subjected to vanity, but because of Him who subjected it on hope, that the creation itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into THE GLORIOUS LIBERTY OF THE CHILDREN OF GOD. And we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now."
Rom 8:19-22

Much love to YOU and to all ! : )

This is actually a very interesting question as it attacks the legitimacy of Solipsism which is the idea that only ones mind is sure to exist. While completely logically and rational to take that approach, it is ultimately destructive in its complete alienation of everything. It is actually the main reason why Religion and belief are necessary.

This is long...read it is you wish?
It says so eloquently what I could not...

This letter is so well written, it may even make some of his supporters think twice; or maybe not. Nonetheless it has 7 remarkably great questions to the type of man he is. I don't know who Mark Gregg is but I am so glad this eloquent letter is circulating . . . .please help keep it going.

Dear Mr. Obama,

It is August 30, 2008. My name is Mark Gregg. I am a 50 something conservative white male. I have followed your campaign closely, including the speeches you and others made at the democratic national convention. I am respectfully providing you with seven simple (probably shallow) reasons why I could never vote for you. I believe my opinion is shared by many people. While there may not be quite enough to prevent you from becoming president of this nation, I do think there is an awakening to the fact that you are not a (the) messiah that the media and liberal Hollywood entertainers are trying to portray you.

1. I hear your mantra of change, change, change. Yet, you picked a long term, liberal, Washington insider (Joe Biden) to be your running mate. This is NOT change. It is a move that hypocritically refutes the very thing you supposedly stand for. Your campaign then slammed McCain for picking Sarah Palin, apparently, because she is NOT a Washington insider. She is a maverick who cleaned-up Alaska 's quagmire of political scandals. Which way is it, Barack? Is it okay for you to pick a Washington insider under the mantra of 'change', but not okay for John McCain to pick a smart, aggressive, reformer?

2. You have the single most liberal voting record in the senate. This indicates to me and others like me that you may very well be an angry black man seeking to punish our country for sins of a different generation. I am not racist. I have some biases just like you and every other human alive. Unlike the democratic party who claims to be for the minority (but their record heavily refutes this), I will give any person who truly needs help, help. I married a 'minority' girl 35 years ago (she is Hispanic) and have seen the evils of prejudice first hand. However, I have also seen my wife and my guyren and others in her family throw off the veil of self imposed prejudicial bondage and move ahead. They love our country and do not view themselves any different than I view myself as a citizen of this country. Your lovely wife so disappointed people like me during this campaign when she stated it was the first time she had ever been proud of this country. She apparently never noticed the massive aid we give dozens of other countries. She apparently never noticed the sacrifice of literally millions of veterans who helped make this country a free nation and helped liberate other nations from brutal dictators such as Adolf Hitler. She apparently does not remember that she attended ivy league universities with scholarship money that ultimately (at least some of it) was paid for by our taxes. This troubles me more than you know. She is an angry black woman who appears to not like her country very much. I don't want her representing me to the rest of the world.

3. You claim Christianity but apparently do not realize that the Bible teaches that he who does not work, does not eat. The Bible does not say or even suggest that he who CANNOT work, should not eat. Yet, your liberal policies reward people who are capable of working, but choose to not do so. This bothers me. I know that if you are elected our taxes will spiral upwards. You should heed the words of Winston Churchill: 'We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.' If I like anything about you, it is your campaign promise to balance the federal budget. Unfortunately, we have heard this a huge number of times from a number of different politicians and we realize that when you energize the very liberal Nancy Pelosi, Robert Byrd, Ted Kennedy, etc, etc, and the many other democrats like them, a balanced budget will never, ever happen on
your watch.

4. During your question and answer session with Rick Warren of Saddleback Church your answer concerning the question of where does life begin, stunned me: 'Above your pay grade?' Does this mean when something bad happens as President of this nation that you are going to look at your salary to determine if you can respond? I am sorry, but this was the most serious gaffe I have seen you make. Frankly, it shows me that you are pandering in the most obvious manner. You will choose your words not from your heart, but from an agenda that I believe is still hidden from the American people.

5. If anything stands out about you it is probably your appeasement mentality. In this era of rampant, radical Islamic extremism and with the latest stunt pulled by the re-energized Russian government, I am not sure appe

Tell your friends, and show them the proof.

Adolf Hitler was well-known to have used hypnosis on crowds to gain power in Germany. (Just Google it if you doubt it.) So why cant this happen in America? It is happening.

Now, this document, An Examination of Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches is really spreading. Many people, including young people, are starting to wake up.

Young people have come up with a saying, "Don't drink the kool-aid Obama is pushing on you."

Obama has no accomplishments, we don't know him, he wrote a memoir, he has racist connections, he is using hypnosis, and he thinks he's the Messiah and that he should be in control of the world. We've seen this story before in Germany in the 1930's, haven't we? We know what happened there.

Obama's use of hypnosis in speeches is why:
-nothing sticks to him
-the huge crowds
-the huge money contributions
-the mesmerized effect, especially in young people, who, because of their imaginations are more susceptible to hypnosis (read the document)
-the exorbitant election fraud, rule-breaking and bias in the media
-he gets away with changing every position
-people are calling him the "greatest leader of a generation" with no accomplishments

You have to read this document to understand how his hypnosis works. Logically and rationally, why not get to know this guy a little more before handing the world over to him? Why not wait?

An Examination of Obama's use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches can be found at
www.scribd.com/doc/7470439/Obamas…
or here
www.pennypresslv.com/Obama's_Use_…

The media must feel compelled to cover this information and decide to let informed people decide.

PS - "Dont drink Obama's Kool-Aid"

What do you think......?
This was a letter written in the paper. Will this wake people up?This man lives in Arizona . His words echo what is troubling about Barack Obama....please read...

Dear Mr. Obama,

It is September 24, 2008. My name is Mark Gregg. I am a 50-something conservative white male. I have followed your campaign closely, including the speeches you and others made at the Democratic national convention. I am respectfully providing you with seven simple reasons why I could never vote for you. I believe my opinion is shared by many people. While there may not be quite enough to prevent you from becoming president of this nation, I do think there is an awakening to the fact that you are not a (the) messiah that the media and liberal Hollywood entertainers are trying to portray you.

1. I hear your mantra of change, change, change. Yet, you picked a long term, liberal, Washington insider (Joe Biden) to be your runnin g mate. This is NOT change. It is a move that hypocritically refutes the very thing you supposedly stand for. Your campaign then slammed McCain for picking Sarah Palin, apparently, because she is NOT a Washington insider. She is a maverick who cleaned-up Alaska 's quagmire of political scandals. Which way is it, Barack? Is it okay for you to pick a Washington insider under the mantra of "change," but not okay for John McCain to pick a smart, aggressive reformer?

2. You have the single most liberal voting record in the senate. This indicates to me and others like me that you may very well be an angry black man seeking to punish our country for sins of a different generation. I am not racist.. I have some biases just like you and every other human alive. Unlike the democratic party who claims to be for the minority (but their record heavily refutes this), I will give any person who truly needs help, help. I married a "minority" girl 35 years ago (she is Hispanic) and have seen the evils of prejudice first hand. However, I have also seen my wife and my guyren and others in her family throw off the veil of self-imposed prejudicial bondage and move ahead. They love our country and do not view themselves any different than20I view myself as a citizen of this country. Your lovely wife so disappointed people like me during this campaign when she stated it was the first time she had ever been proud of this country. She apparently never noticed the massive aid we give dozens of other countries. She apparently never noticed the sacrifice of literally millions of veterans who helped make this country a free nation and helped liberate other nations from brutal dictators such as Adolph Hitler. She apparently does not remember that she attended Ivy League universities with scholarship money that ultimately (at least some of it) was paid for by our taxes. This troubles me more than you know. She is an angry black woman who appears to not like her country very much. I don't want her representing me to the rest of the world.

3. You claim Christianity but apparently do not realize that the Bible teaches that he who does not work, does not eat. The Bible does not say or even suggest that he who CANNOT work, should not eat. Yet, your liberal policies reward people who are capable of working, but choose to not do so. This bothers me. I know that if you are elected our taxes will spiral upwards. You should heed the words of Winston Churchill: "We contend t hat for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." If I like anything about you, it is your campaign promise to balance the federal budget. Unfortunately, we have heard this a huge number of times from a number of different politicians and we realize that when you energize the very liberal Nancy Pelosi, Robert Byrd, Ted Kennedy, etc., etc., and the many other Democrats like them, a balanced budget will never, ever happen on your watch.

4. During your question and answer session with Rick Warren of Saddleback Church your answer concerning the question of where does life begin, stunned me. It¢s above your pay grade? Does this mean when something bad happens as President of this nation that you are going to look at your salary to determine if you can respond? I am sorry, but this was the most serious gaffe I have seen you make. Frankly, it shows me that you are pandering in the most obvious manner. You will choose your words not from your heart, but from an agenda that I believe is still hidden from the American people.
&nbs p;
5. If anything stands out about you it is probably your appeasement mentality. In this era of rampant, radical Islamic extremism and with the latest stunt pulled by the re-energized Russian government, I am not sure appeasement is healthy. I again revert to the words of Winston Churchill: "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."

6. You and your party tacitly believe that a 13- or 14-year-old girl must have the paren

I don't know if people will pay attention, but these are good words. I especially appreciate point #5. Thanks.

AGE OF CONSENT LAWS-The way they SHOULD be! I will illustrate this?
Isabel started puberty at 12 and by age 14 she felt all these hormones raging inside her
and she started to feel attraction towards males. She developed her secondary sex
characteristics which naturally attract men. Paulo who is 22 years of age drives by
Isabel as she's walking down the sidewalk and does a double-take at how cute she is.
He parks his car and approaches her and asks her age. Isabel tells Paulo she's 14 and
Paulo decides she's too young for him and drives away. We can all agree Paulo
did the right thing, but why did Paulo decide she was too young for him? I'll discuss that
later. Isabel senses Paulo is more mature than she is and therefore she is more
attracted to him then she is her peers. This is because Isabel is going through new changes,
she is developing into a sexual being, and along with that is the need to feel
desirable, if her advances are denied, or lack of advances towards her are not frequent,
this need will not be met and she will feel "unsexy", "undesirable" which will
inevitably lead to low-self esteem, which could lead to depression and disregard for life,
therefore leading to risky behavior. She acknowledges Paulo is older and is therefore primarily
attracted to older women, women that have a firm hold on their sexuality and confident of it,
feelings Isabel is pursuing. Basically, to bag an older man proves to Isabel that she's just
as sexy as the women Paulo is normally attracted to, therefore confirming that she is indeed
very desirable. This is the workings of an immature mind. This is the reason at times young
women are naturally drawn to older men and will they will often lie about their age to secure
their attention. This is where parents are desperately needed to fulfill their roles. Paulo and
Isabel are in different stages in their lives. Paulo has reached sexual maturity meaning he
can freely engage in intercourse with women and not feel bound by them, and move on to
another women if he pleases, or if he chooses remain with them in a relationship. Regardless
of what actions he takes, the women he's with are mature enough to handle whatever situation
that arises. Isabel is still in the early stages of her sexuality and is not yet mature enough to
handle the behavior that is inherent to Paulo. For example, say Paulo has sex with Isabel,
she will become over attached to Paulo because she will use him as her affirmation of her
sexual identity, she will not be Paulo's primary choice, since at her age she will naturally have
boundaries set by her parents which will inhibit Paulo's freedom, Paulo will want to move on
and Isabel is left with the feeling of being undesirable, used for sex (which is the case, coz why else
would Paulo of done it? if he knew she couldn't be free with him) and therefore left feeling
dirty and unwanted, at the fragile stage in her development, this can more easily lead to depression ect.
This is the way it SHOULD be! Paulo should started dating women at around the age of 17 on to his age
for they are near to or at the age of full maturity and therefore freedom from parental bondage.
Therefore they will be happy in their freedom and freely engage in intercourse with no hurt feelings since
they are mature enough to handle it. Isabel should be allowed to explore her sexual feelings but only
with people in her age group and with boundaries. This allows her experience in developing feelings for others
at smaller doses and dealing with rejection at smaller doses. (any act that accompanies an orgasm is bound
to lead to a "deeper" feeling of being with someone, since the feeling becomes an addiction, therefore the person
you shared it with becomes one, this is not the case with other acts, such as "kissing" "cuddling", although
they do lead to deeper feelings since they enhance a relationship, the feelings of losing them are less intense
and more easily managed by a person at Isabel's age.) It is the job of Isabel's parents to explain this entire
process to her. Why she wants older men, why it's not right to lie about her age to attain one, why
she should just date people her age ect. IT IS THE PARENTS'S JOB! I can not stress this more enough. Paulo
is not as confident as Isabel suspected. In reality, he has a hard time around women in person at first, he's fine
once he gets to know them in an inpersonal setting first, then engages a meeting. This is just his usual routine.
Isable also frequents the internet (without parental supervision as usual these days) and spots Paulo's profile. Her
emotions hit the roof, she must have this older more mature man (in her eyes) because it will make her feel like
an older more mature woman. So typically, she lies about her age, and Paulo being a trusting man doesn't question it. Isabel
even goes as far as to provide Paulo with a fake picture of a much older woman. For nearly a year, they talked online.
Paulo insists on meeting but Isabel is clever in making up stories as to why they can't. Mainly that her brothers are involved
in gangs and that they will harm Paulo for dating her since he's a "stranger of the net" This story seems reasonable so
Paulo decides to wait it out until, as Isabel puts it, she is able to find an apartment and decent paying job to leave her parent's house
and her brothers. As Paulo becomes tired of waiting and becomes more insistant. Isabel decides she can't keep up
the ruse any longer and having developed real natural feelings of caring for Paulo,and not handling the guilt any longer
decides to tell him the truth. She tells him one summer day, that she has a confession to make. Paulo's heart races, what could it be?
She admits she's really 15. Paulo's heart drops and beside himself with anger. His first impulse is the right one, he tells
Isabel that he can no longer talk to her. Having dealt with a girl before that threatened suicide at a break-up, Paulo makes sure
she can handle that he can't talk to her anymore and makes her promise she won't do anything stupid. She claims she
will end her life if he stops talking to her, and Paulo is upset, but in his irrational mind takes this as a good reason to stay with her
since he simply can't turn off the feelings he has for her. They developed in a year's time, but this is simply a state
of confusion and once Paulo finally comes to his senses, he decides it has to end. There is a problem though, and this is where
the law of the land inhibits Paulo from doing what was truly right, which was end the charade, and notify her parents of her actions
and leave it at that. The law states that Paulo can be convicted of this act and sent to jail REGARDLESS of whether he knew
her true age or not. In the context of this situation this law seems utterly ridiculous, but Paulo recognizes it and fears his own
safety (since people with that charge latched onto them are treated less then kindly in prison,even to the point of being killed) and the loss of his freedom
This now becomes a matter of life and death for Paulo, a matter of self-preservation and personal survival. He realizes that
if he were to dump Isabel, there is a very good chance she will not take this very well and in a fit of personal revenge turn him
into the authorities, who could give a damn about his side of the story. He simply can not take the risk and convinces himself that
he has to keep Isabel under surveillance and insure she won't turn him in, and the best way to do that he figures is to remain her
online boyfriend" therefore she would still care for him too much to risk putting him in harm. He feels repulsed that this is what he feels
he has to do for his own good (I doubt many out there would do any different in the face of jail time and a lifetime brand of being a
sex offender just for being unlucky enough to be duped like this) In his heart of hearts he feels it is wrong, but since he has to deal with it
until she turns 18 (the year Paulo figures he can just be with her, and his fears of persecution will be gone) he convinces himself theres
nothing wrong with being attracted to someone 15 (which in a biological sense, he's right) and that she's mature enough to be with him
in a nonsexual relationship (which since thats what she's supposed to do with boys her age, be in nonsexual relationships) he is right in
a sense that she is mature enough to handle that. Paulo is a victim of circumstance. The circumstances being Isabel's parents failed in their
duty as parents to properly inform their daughter she should not seek out older men and lie about her age to them, and the circumstance
that the law simply can't recognize that situations like this do occur and Paulo has the right to end the relationship and defer
Isabel to her parents, and the parents be reprimanded for unproper surveillance of their guy and neglect of their duties to properly
educate her. Paulo is forced to pervert his very nature for the sake of saving his own hide. Isabel finally grows bored of Paulo as she gets older
and simply dumps him. Paulo is RELIEVED! A huge weight is off his shoulders. Although he feels a tinge of fear she may still turn him in, he feels
she has less reason to do so since it was her decision to leave. He now lives with perpetual guilt for what he did. Logically, he was stuck between
a rock and a hard place, the rock being being set up to be in that situation by Isabel and essentially her parents to and the hard place being his
life, freedom and reputation stripped from him, he found himself between that and came to the decision he thought was right for his own
personal benefit. This is the type of thing that happens when society is blind to science, psychiatry, and common sense and makes there laws
in a way that it OPPOSES those very things that enrich our lives and gives us proper understanding on how things should be. I explained how
science, psychiatry, and common sense has dictated (at least in my view) things should of went down, but the laws, and improper education of
the parents and the guy leads to a haphazard mishandling of things that only leads to the ruination of lives.

I couldn't even read all you wrote but, I feel that it doesn't matter how old you are, you should be tested mentally and physically to see if you are old enuf to be sexually active, they should set the age to the person not all people, if you know what I mean some actually mature faster then others and when one could be 15 or 16 and mature enuf her twin sister can be 18 or 19 before she id mature enuf, people are different and the law should be based on the person with some sort of legal document or something.

Christian ladies...I call you for tea?
Lets sit around the fireplace and talk about your biblical roles.

Any discussion of bondage and the Bible would be remiss if the Biblical role outlined for women was omitted. In both the Old and New Testaments women are assigned a position not appreciably different from that of domestic servants. Their status is demeaning, debilitating, and wholly incompatible with self-respect and confidence. Except for Mary, Eve, Ruth, Sarah, Rachel, and a few lesser figures, few biblical women have roles of significance, and even fewer are worthy of emulation. Eve, for example, is blamed for the creation of Original Sin. The Bible says as much: "For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner (1 Tim. 2:12-14, NIV)." Is it any wonder that women's groups oppose this narrative? With his usual wit, Ingersoll once observed: "...nearly every religion has accounted for all the devilment in this world by the crime of woman.

Now you understand how we end up skipping church, practicing witchcraft and becoming lesbians. ;)

Seriously, the very points you raise are the ones I left Christianity over.

My boyfriend wants me to fulfill his sexual desires but doesn't fulfill some of my basic needs!?
I'm really stuck. I love my boyfriend so damn much, we've been together for well over 2 years. I knew fairly early on into the relationship that he was into bondage, which I was cool with because I quite like it too. However a year into our relationship after moving in together he suddenly told me he had a fetish for wearing women's clothing and admitted he'd been trying on my clothes while I'd been out. This was hard to comprehend at first but after a couple of weeks I was used to it and had no problem with him experimenting with my outfits.

So the issue is, I have low confidence in my self image, and this is understandable seeing as I'm pretty overweight. I have experienced a significant reduction in libido since I was about 19 and depressingly it's not come back. For a while I wasn't particularly enjoying sex. Recently I was diagnosed with biochemical depression and started taking anti-depressants, me and my boyfriend also got our own place and since these changes my libido has improved. However my boyfriend isn't the romantic type, he doesn't understand what he can do to make me feel more attractive and sexually appealing, as it stands I feel about as sexy as a dead pigeon. At the same time he wants me to incorporate his desire to be dominated and dressed up as a girl in the bedroom. He wants me to go to fetish clubs and go to a pub every month to meet with others who are into it, but I'm still just trying to get my own sex drive back, I'm not THAT into it. Recently he started expressing doubts about our relationship. While he mentioned my mood swings and untidiness as a factor he also make it clear that he wants me to dominate him and dress him up more.

I do occasionally role play as a dominatrix but with my lack of confidence in my body and not being a massive fan of the role it's a lot of effort. I've dressed him up a couple of times but I don't find it sexually appealing in the slightest and it's very difficult. It's a lot of effort to plan these little sessions. I was supposed to be planning one now but because I let slip to him that I was organising something for when he gets home I've had the added pressure of it. I've just been tidying up the room for it and broken down in tears because I can't do it anymore. I was tidying up the cupboard and there were so many high-heeled shoes and boots clogging it up, all of which are his. He has more dresses and skirts and corsets than I do and it's all getting to much. I don't bother buying nice lingerie anymore because I know he'd prefer himself in them than me.

What can I do? I don't want to lose him, but this scene isn't me!

If he's wanting you to play the role of the dominant, why are you bothering with tidying up the room and cupboard? I mean really, that should be his job. Why are you limiting your dominatrix role to just the bedroom?

He wants to serve you. Let him. Just because the two of you have moved into different homes doesn't mean that he shouldn't come over to clean your house. Why should you be wasting your time doing those menial tasks when he's wanting to do it?

What's that you say? You don't think he wants to clean house for you? What do you think all this dominated by you stuff is all about?

Now, what's that he's saying? He says he doesn't want to? Who cares what he does or doesn't want. He *wants* whatever you tell him he wants. And give him twenty lashes for his insolence.

Don't you think it's about time to shift that role playing to more real life. If done right, he will find a way to make you start feeling more attractive and appealing.

(email me if you need more links to some other interesting aspects of the world your bf has made available to you)

Is God a god of mercy, or a god of guilt trip?
Assuming that God is the god of the bible...the bible has redeeming qualities. The prophets are very human and self-sacrificing....but if it wasn't for thier elevated status, some of them would have been stoned in a heart beat...like the story of David and Bathsheba. Is a king who has 700 wives and 300 concubines humble and wise, or is he kind of an adulturer? Seriously, God is very human himself. It began in the garden. Why is knowledge such a bad thing?...and the demonization of women all throughout the bible. God is openly jealous. One of the most famous stories told to guyren is God smotting the earth because of disobedience until he found "grace" in Noah. If the first part, he said he was greivous and would wipe out mankind in general UNTIL he found grace in Noah. Then, people who build a city with a tower, he punishes them by confuing thier language. Every early sin, all of man was punished for. He lets his people live in slavery, then condemns an entie nation, and ethnically cleanses another to find a nice seat for Israel. Then many times he punishes Israel by putting them in bondage and making them slaves to other nations, but it's okay, because God still has thier backs in the end, and it's still all our faults...but in the prophets you hear that God is more liberal than "THou Shalt Not" and that was written to prove how unworthy man was to serve God....and ofcourse if they do something wrong...stone them. It was the stories of mercy that made God look good that made the bible. Then in the New Testamen, it pretty much antagonizes Israel, then in a sence protagonizes the gentiles, because they accept some of the teachings of the disciples...so God provides a way out for AL of humanity, through a divine human sacrifice that has similar stories in past pagan beliefs. Isn't that kind of him? Now instead erasing everyone except a nation, now the world is to be erased ecept some sort of belief....and that punishment is to burn forever. Seriously though, are modern Jews a decendant from Abraham, or is it just an orthodox belief? How can they be god
s people if they're really just genetic gentiles believing an ancient Jewish belief, when Christianity is allegedly the only valid path? and the punishment for disbelief, is ofcourse eternal burning...the bible never mentions what happens to people who don't hear the gospel...it just kind of assumes that the world should already get the message. I'm not talking about the historical errors of translation, I'm just talking about a simple belief. How can someone take this word for word literally, and defending what seems to be an insecure God who failed the world due to our lack of perfection then blames it on us? It seems like every other ancient god with an inferiority complex, just more exclusive. Basiclly everything is really our faults, but we just don't see it, but if we grovel on our hands and knees and beg for forgiveness, we might attain the award of getting to serve God for eternity. Does anyone see anything wrong with this? It sickens me that some people don't try to understand some of the problems in the world, but just blames it on them in general, due to lack of religious obedience. It's human ignorance at is greatest, and has historically been proven to be evil, unless liberated to allegorical form. Fundamentalism can destroy the lives and faith of those who choose not to conform to a narrow mind set.

Romans 8:1
Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

Sexually Psychotic?
I am very curious how many others have 'normal' Yahoo ID's that are their everyday ID's and then one like mine I am using now to explore their other side? My other side is an insataible whore who can get extremely aroused by looking at seductive pics of beautiful woman. My other side in real life loves bondage, but only with that 'one' and I keep it very private. My normal self is a PTA mom, soccer mom, active in community, etc. I have two normal and well adjusted daughters. Am I pyschotic or is this fairly normal?
For all you horndogs out there....I am at work, my IM does not work here.

OK, I'll admit it. I have a couple of accounts, one of which I use for normal, every stuff, and one that I use for, well, other stuff. The question is, which one am I using now? ;-)